Name: Isolationists vs. Interventionists, GOP Split on Iran
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Journal Editorial Report: Lawmakers divided on U.S. role in the conflict.

Isolationists vs. Interventionists, GOP Split on Iran

I don't want a war, but if you pick a fight with us, you're gonna lose to our friends in Israel. Keep it up. We've got your back.

I think the lingering chance for diplomacy comes from restraint. The president has shown restraint in the past. The president's instincts are good and I'm hoping the president will not get involved with the war.

We back Israel to the hilt all the way, but he's appropriately keeping all options on the table.

There is some division. I don't want to see the United States in another war. I certainly think that we can enable the Israelis to continue what they are doing in destroying Iran's nuclear capabilities.

It is time for regime change and I believe that the president should be given a fair amount of leeway to affect that.

That's just a sample of the debate among Republicans, and not just in Washington, but the entire mega movement on the country's role in the Middle East War. The interventionists and the America First isolationists are fighting to convince President Trump of what to do next. Let's bring in our panel, "Wall Street Journal" columnist Kim Strassel and Jason Riley and "Editorial Board" member, Kyle Peterson. So, Jason, what do you think is behind the president's two-week delay here, which didn't look like that was gonna be possible earlier in the week?

I think he wants to hear out all sides. As we heard from those clips, there are a lot of opinions out there. Everyone wants his ear and I think he wants to hear them out. I think he is hesitant by nature to jump the gun on this, so he wants to give it some time. I do think, however, that his instincts are correct here on following Israel's lead. I think he's been very impressed by how quickly Israel has maintained the airspace over Iran, taking out these nuclear scientists so quickly. I think he likes the fact that they're stepping up to do the heavy lifting here and they just want some military support, and I think he's inclined to give it to them, but he doesn't want to jump the gun. I think he's hesitant to get involved. A lot of people in his coalition do want him to stay on the sidelines. They are a little hesitant about America getting involved in another war. That was one of the reasons they supported him. His promise is to get us out of conflicts, so he wants to hear them out, and I think he's wise to do that.

Kim, what does this debate tell you about the mega coalition and where the folks come down? I mean if you look at the polls, it would suggest that most Republicans actually would support military action against an Iranian to stop an Iranian nuclear program.

You know, 30,000 feet, Paul, what you've got is a fundamentally pretty small group of the America First, what people call national conservatives who decided to double down on Trump's populism and have put them very much in an isolationist corner. And they felt as though they might have the moment here and that they'd had a few victories going into this administration. They got some people who think like them placed in prominent positions in the administrations. They felt that, the president, they had molded him to their thinking, especially when it came, for instance, to Ukraine. But I think that they've actually swung and miss here, this was not necessarily the right hill to pick this battle on. They came out and started really pressuring him, and I think so far he is keeping his own counsel and dismissing a lot of that.

Now, Kyle, there's real tension here between the president's campaigning as a peacemaker, of course, very noble goal, and saying he wants to stay out of conflicts. On the other hand, his clear and long-standing position that Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon, they may be, in the end, irreconcilable, and he's gonna have to pick one or the other.

Yeah, but there are some differences and distinctions between these cases that I think some of the people that are trying to box the president in are missing. They maybe misread what he meant by America First. I mean, we know he is skeptical of trying to change regimes in foreign countries. We know he's skeptical of boots on the ground, of long deployments, but in his own words, suggesting that the US might get involved here, he seems like he is open to taking decisive action, short-term action when the US can make a difference in a place like this. And I think that, that's an important distinction. This is not like the decision to go into Iraq, and I think that the intelligence of what is at the Fordow site in Iran is pretty clear from the International UN Agency, its reports about what's in that, the enrichment materials in there. And I think he's also reacting to the fact that some of these advisors are trying to box him in, like Tulsi Gabbard putting out a video saying that "They are war mongers trying to get us into a war with Iran."

And that this will lead to Hiroshima.

Right, exactly. And I think that the President doesn't like that when the people that he has hired and put into those positions are going to the public to try to narrow his range of options as the President of the United States.

Well, Jason, there really is, what I guess you could call an Iraq syndrome here. You know, some of us are old enough to remember the Vietnam syndrome, which the left used for a generation after Vietnam to say, "No, no, no, don't intervene anywhere." Now, that syndrome is on the right in many minds saying, "Oh, Iraq, you know, that didn't work out well, Afghanistan didn't work out well, therefore no interventions."

Well, you have to judge each of these conflicts on their own terms, and that's what these folks are failing to do, using this blanket sentiment that "The world will be a better place if the US withdraws," and we know it won't be. It's a more dangerous place when the US withdraws. No one in their right mind believes that Iran is enriching uranium for peaceful, domestic energy purposes, Paul. No one believes that. And to suggest that they're fine, we can just contain them after they have it. Israel is an existential threat. Iran has said, you know, "We wanna wipe them off the map." They have called the US the great Satan. Trump takes them at their word, and he should. They are sponsoring terrorism worldwide. They are a source of instability in the Middle East, and other bad folks are watching what's going on here in Russia, in North Korea, in China, and so forth, and it's important that Trump carry through on this because those other people are watching.

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